Telefonica Trials
September 16, 2008
A confused post about Telefonica…
Life in Spain is good most of the time. Despite the ‘little annoyances’ we have been subject to over the last two years, it is still a great place to live, no question. But when things go wrong I wish we didn’t nearly always encounter the ‘manana problema’. And it is a refreshing change when ‘manana’ turns out to be today… or perhaps it doesn’t…
I will explain…
To publish a post to this blog I need to use the Internet, obviously. But in actual fact, I am writing this entry on a blog poster and hoping it will eventually be published, as at this precise point in time we do not have access to the Internet; at least, not reliable access anyway.
This is not an unusual occurrence. Our ‘rural ADSL’ has its moments of being offline at some point every two or three days, but usually only for a few minutes or a couple of hours at most. Sadly this time it could be intermittent (or offline completely) for a few days.
Internet Statement by altemark on flickr
Telefonica are very proud of their rural ADSL network, and I guess, all things taken into consideration, they have a right to be. Spain isn’t an easy region to make available to the internet, with its mountain villages tucked away everywhere off the beaten track and the rather haphazard system used for the telephone lines. And recently, rural ADSL has been upgraded; no longer do we have to wait for ever for a webpage to load or give up the opportunity of watching a funny YouTube video because of slow download speeds. Now our line speed is respectable (well, respectable for rural ADSL anyhow…). We can log on and browse with the rest of the world and not forego pages which are heavy to load.
And when you consider where the telephone boxes are situated in most rural areas, it is no mean feat that they work at all. In our village, the switch box is housed in a ramshackle hut down an alleyway between two houses. It looks like it would make a great hiding place for local strays, allowing they could find their way through the heavy locks which look sturdier than the shack itself (and nothing appears to deter the local stray cats and dogs).
But so far the switch box has weathered most (but not all) storms and the wires do not appear to have been chewed into or disturbed by anything. There again, allowing for the current situation, I could be wrong.
Two days ago our phone lines went down. Not an unusual occurrence either. But a telephone call to Telefonica (with the constantly repeated phrase ‘English’ given to the answerphone message) and an explanation to the English speaking operator (always easier…) got a fairly swift response. The engineers fixed ‘el problema’ the very next morning.
Not so the Internet however.
I was working in the kitchen when I heard the neighbour’s telephone ring and I thought “great, now I can get on with my work on the net”. But it wasn’t to be. The little ‘msn messenger man’ spun round and round trying to log me in, with no success. Never mind, I tried loading Firefox , as Internet Explorer is a pain in the backside loading anyhow. But nada, just the ‘this webpage isn’t available’ notice.
So still no Internet.
After checking all connections in the house, my husband reluctantly called Telefonica again (he hates having to repeat ‘English’ several times to the answer phone…). He explained the situation (“Si, ahora tenemos una linea, pero no, no tenemos el internet” repeated several times, just to make sure…) and the woman on the end of the line said she would call the engineers again, but it may take a while for them to respond.
I guess they hadn’t thought to check that the Internet switches in the telephone box were still working when they checked out the phone switches. An easy mistake to make, I guess, after all, no one had thought to mention that we had no Internet, we assumed they would realise this as the phone lines were not working…
Anyway, within a few hours the engineer turned up to check the Internet switch in the phone box. Sure enough, it was faulty. He rang us to say it would be ‘manana’ before he could fix it and went away. The woman from Telefonica rang to inform us as well, ending her call with the usual “Is there anything else I can help you with? Have you considered getting your TV through our ADSL lines too…?” (My husband was tempted to reply that it would be nice to have a working ADSL line before considering that one, thank you…).
But strangely, as I am typing this post, the Internet is flickering on and off. Sometimes it is loading, but very slowly, sometimes nothing at all. Either way, that wasn’t happening before. Whether or not the engineer came back early to fix it, without telling us, I don’t know… It doesn’t seem to be considered important to tell us what is going on when something is mended, only when it is broken… but I do know that ‘flickering on and off’ will be a bitch to explain to the Telefonica help line if it continues…
So, if this post ends up on my blog at the same date I gave to the publication, perhaps the ‘Telefonica man’ did solve the problem without waiting for manana.
But if he did, he didn’t do a complete ‘fix’. And if he didn’t, I guess he is coming back manana… or perhaps not…


September 23, 2008 at 3:15 pm
A small factoid. What receives the greatest number of complaints at “consumidores” every year? Year in, year out?
You guessed it…Telefonica!
A small fact that would usually mean the ruin of any company, other than telefonica of course. Ever since SeƱor Gonzales saw Thatcher privatizing everything and decided to do the same here, Telefonica has taken the proverbial cake in complaints every year, no small feat if you really consider things.
As a moral rule, if ever possible, I use competitors. I am now writing this over on-and-off Orange lines, but still get some sort of satisfaction that I don’t even pay Telefonica for the landline. Pleasure reading your post, it has given me an idea for one, possibly the most bizarre of all Telefonica stories.
http://troyshouse.blogspot.com
September 23, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Hola Troy!
Thanks for the comment.
And yes, I knew about all the Telefonica complaints, which was why I tried to make that post a little balanced
Truth be told, they had not fixed the line – it was simply that when the engineer fiddled with the switches, he had inadvertently allowed us a very slight path of communication with the Internet.
Two engineers arrived to fix ‘el problema’ the following day. It took several hours, but we were finally back online (although line speed is now a little slower than it was before…. guess we may have to make another telephone call…).
We are stuck with Telefonica here. Because of the area (in the mountains and surrounded by more mountains), we are unable to pick up signals via anything but the telephone (apart from installing an extremely large and very expensive satelite dish on the roof, which would be as big as our roof terrace). Even to make a mobile phone call, we have to go to the roof terrace and hang over the edge
I have just had a long read of your blog. It is so full of great information (and your thoughts on certain subjects – which appear very similar to mine).
I will be back to comment soon
Glad you came by.
September 23, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Thanks for the support and good to hear. The Anglo world of blogging in Spain can be a little frightening at times. It seems that Spain draws the most conservative of the U.K, North America and OZ.
Mind if I link yours to mine?
regards
Troy
September 23, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hi again Troy,
yes it is strange how it is mainly the more conservative elements of society who seem to amass in Spain as expats. I could say it is because so many people retire here, but that would be assuming that most retired people are conservative and that doesn’t appear to be the case either…
But yes, you are welcome to link to me (I have linked to you already). I would be very pleased if you did. But I must warn you, I do not post very often here. I have so many other blogs to post to (I work on the internet), this one receives my attention much too rarely to make it a daily (or even a weekly) read.
November 3, 2008 at 8:39 pm
That is funny. And made me think of a very clever recent episode in South Park in which the Internet stopped working. It was hysterical (with some truth) to see the parody of how much we’ve rely on it now.
Even in the middle of London there are little ‘huts’ where phone equipment sits, sometimes exposed. Seems there are similarities in the unlikeliest of places.
February 15, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Hello to you both in El Turro! Hope you’re well.
I had a variety of fun and games with Telefonica when I moved to an even more rural location near Loja.
We’re in a small valley which only has a DOMO radio phone system. I had read online that there were newer systems or even satallite options available through Telefonica. Needless to say, whether I contacted them in Spanish or English, they didn’t seem interested and that “my information was incorrect”.
When push comes to shove, it costs them money to roll out the newer systems in rural communities and areas, though in fairness they face a difficult task. They opened tenders for their rural internet services in 2005, but not a single company applied for the contracts.
I am now using a 3G mobile connection which to get broadband, I must use with a laptop within sight of the Parapanda mountain, usually this is done sat a couple of km’s from my house in the van. At home, the best it less than 50kb or dialup speed.
We’ll get there in the end. Some of the mobile companies are supposed to be investing in infrastructure locally, so there will be more options shortly. Although sadly at the moment, from memory I never used to get a good mobile phone signal around El Turro.